Vinitha and Dr Swati Popat Vats

Edited excerpts from the interview.

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What prompted both of you to write Once Upon a Story?
Swati: I think Gijubhai has always been an inspiration. But the most important reason to write this was my agitation when people were gung-ho about going abroad and learning the same things that Indian educationists have been doing for years.
Vinitha: I heard about Gijubhai from Swati 15 years ago. She had made Divaswapna, Gijubhai Badheka's book, compulsory reading. The more I looked out for information about him, the less I found anything. I was already an established journalist when I signed up for the ECCEd course. By the time I was done, I would tell Swati, "Let's write about him." I remained convinced of this for 15 years. In the end, last year she said, "Let's do it." And we did.

Could you elaborate on your research process?
Vinitha: Gijubhai Badheka wrote more than 200 books. Yet this is the first book about him in any language. All that is there about him is in Gujarati and then there are short documentaries about him, also in Gujarati. So, not only did we collate all the information about him, we also contextualised it.

Did he deviate from Montessori methods?
Swati: Yes, he did. I am a follower of Pestalozzi, who is called the father of curriculum development, and he was against bringing something from another culture and implementing it elsewhere.
Vinitha: Not many know that Gijubhai brought Montessori to India and it continues to be here. But he tweaked everything he had to suit the children he was teaching. And this is what the book says: the child never fails. It is the system or the institution that has not worked for the child. If schools keep children as their centres — as Gijubhai proved — it is possible to find ways to make learning accessible.

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